yeah, i've already contacted a bunch of people about some fish. This list is great. I wish i knew about it way back when (approx. 6 mo. ago). My problem is that you can read all of you want on different sites, but you never know if everything said is the truth. I do research and that's a big problem with web sites--posting incorrect information. With this list, you know there are REAL people that have experience, who are willing to share it with you and others. I am going to get uwe's book and probably the other one (link and staeck..,something like that). I finished the 96 archives and in about march or april of 97, so i apologize if some of the questions are repeats from earlier years...but I know things change (like the number and nomenclature of the apisto. species). I am still wondering if I can get some kind of general consensus about the fish I posted on max's site: http://communities.msn.com/TheDigitalAquarium/mysteryfish.msnw I plan on taking pictures of another fish that I am trying to mate with the unknown fish. hope there's a match. Thanks all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto