Steve, It looks like you have 2 different species. The first and third photos look like a eunotus form to me. It's probably A. cf. eunotus Orangetail/Orangeschwanz & a male. This fish is also called A. cf. eunotus (Santa Ana) if it comes from that location, A. sp. Willy, & (probably) A. sp. Albertini. Photos 2 & 4 show a fish belonging to the regani-complex of the regani-group. Note the long, band like, caudal spot that is well separated from the lateral band by a much lighter interstitial area. This is diagnostic of regani-complex species. If these fish came in together, they probably are probably Peruvian in origin. The only commercially available regani-complex fish from Peru is A. sp. Masked/Masken, also known as A. sp. Peru (1 of 2 species), & A. sp. Carapintada (1 of 2 species). Mike Wise Steve Wilson wrote: > Sorry, > > I forgot the link! oops... > http://members.aol.com/Darth%20Elle/steve.html > > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader