I'll add to what others have said. Having been a minerals exploration geologist for 10 years, I think I can add some caution to what has been said. Vinegar is a weak acid. On some carbonate bearing rock like dolomite it will not react without scraping part of the rock into powder. Dave uses sulfuric acid which is much stronger & will react without any extra scraping. Geologists use hydrochloric acid for this purpose. Muriatic acid can be found at hardware stores. This is an industrial grade of hydrochloric acid. Even non-calcareous rocks can be dangerous. Many have heavy metals that can leach out and be toxic to fish. Most volcanic rocks are OK, but rock with blue, green, & yellow colored minerals should to be used with great caution. Those that show metallic grains need to be avoided, too. My philosophy is 'when in doubt, throw it out'. Mike Wise JerrCarol@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/23/2002 2:58:28 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, r_pooley@hotmail.com writes: > > > >> If the vinegar trick works on sand....will it >> also work on rocks to see >> if they will change your Ph? I also don't have >> a supply of car batteries >> like Dave does. Rich > > Yes,... that is where I first heard of it being > used was to test a rock. Maybe one of the > resident chemist will explain why vinegar can be > used to tell if the rock has a pH raising > quality. The only test I remember from school > was adding vinegar and baking soda would > actually blow out a fire. > > > JerryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader