So there all ye who would spare the battery and harden the fish!!!!!!!! Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids David Soares & Uwe Romer 14697 S Bluegrass LN Sisters Or 97759 apistodave@bendcable.com www.apistogrammaidiots.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Rocks > I'll add to what others have said. Having been a > minerals exploration geologist for 10 years, I > think I can add some caution to what has been > said. Vinegar is a weak acid. On some carbonate > bearing rock like dolomite it will not react > without scraping part of the rock into powder. > Dave uses sulfuric acid which is much stronger & > will react without any extra scraping. Geologists > use hydrochloric acid for this purpose. Muriatic > acid can be found at hardware stores. This is an > industrial grade of hydrochloric acid. > > Even non-calcareous rocks can be dangerous. Many > have heavy metals that can leach out and be toxic > to fish. Most volcanic rocks are OK, but rock with > blue, green, & yellow colored minerals should to > be used with great caution. Those that show > metallic grains need to be avoided, too. My > philosophy is 'when in doubt, throw it out'. > > Mike Wise > > JerrCarol@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 6/23/2002 2:58:28 PM Eastern > > Daylight Time, r_pooley@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > >> If the vinegar trick works on sand....will it > >> also work on rocks to see > >> if they will change your Ph? I also don't have > >> a supply of car batteries > >> like Dave does. Rich > > > > Yes,... that is where I first heard of it being > > used was to test a rock. Maybe one of the > > resident chemist will explain why vinegar can be > > used to tell if the rock has a pH raising > > quality. The only test I remember from school > > was adding vinegar and baking soda would > > actually blow out a fire. > > > > > > JerryB > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader