Well, the caves go without saying of course. Thanks for the driftwood tip! The tank they are in goes cloudy on me and i couldn't figure out why! I'll let you know if leaving the driftwood out works! Rich --- Max Gallade <mgallade@hotmail.com> wrote: > Rich , > Don't forget your breeding caves,small terra cotta > saucers with holes in > them or halved coconut shells or whatever you got. > I removed driftwood from almost all my tanks.I > suspected that the wood > leached out to much phosphate .I had some bad blue > green algae in some of my > tanks.This problem is gone now. > Good luck > Max > > >From: Rich Grenfell <rgrenfell@sbcglobal.net> > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > >To: apisto@listbox.com > >Subject: Re: A. sp."Maulbrueter" breeding update > >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:44:19 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Max, > >I am in the middle of changing a tank over for my > >Pairs. Is there anything else you thgin they might > >need other than the sand? I was going to put lots > of > >java moss, and anubias, and a little drift wood > too. > >I'm finding it a bit frustrating. She has carried 5 > >times so far, but no fry yet. I am thinking that > >perhaps she loses them in the gravel? > > > >Rich > > > >--- Max Gallade <mgallade@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Sal,all, > > > The fry started to free swim last night.The > females > > > attacks toward the male > > > got a bit nastier.I decided then to move the > male to > > > another tank. > > > The fry got their first tour of the tank this > > > morning.The female moved them > > > from the pit they stayed in the last three days > to > > > another one,in the > > > middle of the tank, near a clump of java > > > moss.Probably to let the fry feed > > > on infusoria found on the java moss.They eagerly > > > took freshly hatched BBS > > > right away.I counted at least 25 fry near > Mom.The > > > female seems to be more > > > relaxed now since the male was moved.She picks > up > > > strays with her mouth,just > > > like other Apisto Moms do ,and spits them back > out > > > into the school.Nothing > > > like the mouthbrooding behavior she displayed > > > earlier after the eggs just > > > hatched. > > > The first photos didn't turn out to good since > the > > > female keeps the fry in > > > the middle of the tank.I'll try again tonight. > > > I'll keep you posted. > > > Max > > > Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M Tropicals > at: > > > http://clix.to/Apisto or > > > at our new site http://www.apisto.bravepages.com > > > E-mail: mgallade@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: salS <chas33@optonline.net> > > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > > >To: apisto@listbox.com > > > >Subject: Re: A. sp."Maulbrueter". > > > >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:06:39 -0400 > > > > > > > >Well Max, your female is certainly showing > > > different fry brooding behavior > > > >than mine did, and I only got 8 fry. By the > way, I > > > also got mine from > > > >Mike, > > > >but I think he put something in the water to > make > > > my female a bad > > > >mother!!!...just kidding Mike.. > > > >Keep us informed. > > > >Sal > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com> > > > >To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:11 AM > > > >Subject: Re: A. sp."Maulbrueter". > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sal ,Rich all , > > > > > Here's the latest on my A. sp."Maulbrueter": > > > > > The female kept her wigglers in one certain > pit > > > for the last two days. > > > > > It looks like that they will be free > swimming > > > either by today or > > > >tomorrow.I > > > > > estimated about 15-20 fry.Not much compared > to > > > other Apisto forms.I left > > > >the > > > > > male in the tank for now.He always get's > chased > > > away when he gets to > > > >close > > > > > to the pit.The female only leaves the pit to > get > > > some food or to chase > > > >the > > > > > male away. > > > > > I'm hoping to get some nice photos of the > female > > > with fry this time for > > > >the > > > > > new website:).I'll keep my fingers > crossed.Oh > > > ,did I mentioned that my > > > >pair > > > > > came from Mike Jacobs,Thanks again Mike. > > > > > This species is really a great addition to > any > > > Apisto fishroom. > > > > > Max > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com> > > > > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > > > > >To: apisto@listbox.com > > > > > >Subject: A. sp."Maulbrueter". > > > > > >Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:09:18 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > >Here's an update on my pair of A. > > > sp."Maulbrueter". > > > > > >Ok, I found about 20 new wigglers in the > tank > > > this morning.The female > > > >dug > > > > > >up the whole tank,probably to create hiding > > > spots for her fry.She > > > >really > > > > > >likes to dig near plant roots until they > are > > > exposed.This will give the > > > >fry > > > > > >probably more spots to hide in.I really > think > > > that a fine sand > > > >substrate > > > >is > > > > > >important to have in the breeding tank for > this > > > species. > > > > > >I will post pictures of the tank and of the > > > female carrying her > > > >wigglers > > > > > >later today in the Maulbruetr section on my > old > > > website. > > > > > >My pair will be moved to bigger , but > similar > > > decorated quarters (20g > > > >long) > > > > > >after this spawn. > > > > > >I'm really enjoying watching their > interesting > > > behavior,very different > > > >from > > > > > >other Apisto species forms. > > > > > >Max > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M > Tropicals > > > at: > > > >http://clix.to/Apisto > > > > > >E-mail: lmtropicals@apisto.bravepages.com > > > > > > mgallade@apisto.bravepages.com > > > > > > mgallade@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile > device: > === message truncated === ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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