Thanks Tomoko, Rainwater, huge water changes, and blackworms is all I normally do. During this drought I have been using my tap. Right now it is 6.5 at 118ppm. In the winter it goes to 8.5 and then I have to filter it through peat. Don't have vinegar eels, but I do have decapsulated bbs. All of them are too big for euglena and the like. So, I'll remove the parents from most of the fry tanks in case they decide to eat them during the ACA fast. I hope to meet you again. Francine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader