Hi John and Jerry, Thanks for your answers. I feed my juvenile and adult fish with live daphnia, grindal worms and occasional frozen blood worms. I supplement their diet with micro pellets and decaps. They also get some bbs occasionally but all of them seem to favor daphnia above all. Four of my tanks are bare bottomed. But I can't stand the looks of the bare bottom tanks so I added some boiled oak leaves. Although it hides the stuff that collects on the bottom somewhat, they still look kind of yucky to me. Must be the woman thing ; ) My female orange flash cacatuoides loves the leaves, though. She spawned in a rolled up leaf. She looked so cute peeking out of it. My success rate does not seem to change whether it is a heavily planted tank with gravels or a bare bottom tank. However, I must say that bare bottom tanks are easier to clean. Tomoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader