Eric, You want sphagnum peat moss. Sphagnum moss is how peat starts off before it spends forever in a peat bog turning into peat; it is sold dried and used by orchid/herp/craft people and I have tried it in tanks... makes a slowly decomposing decent place for fry to hide, but it does not do the beneficial stuff to the water that peat does. Martha ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader