Oh, don't be embarrassed, Mike. I know foreign names are hard to tell, that is if you can remember it at all. I am very bad with names, foreign or not. Here's a little tip for you to tell Japanese female's name from the male's. If a Japanese first name (provided it's written in English order - the family name last) ends with "ko" as in Tomo"ko", the person who belongs to the name is almost always a female. However, Japanese female's names do not always end with "ko", although the majority of them do. Tomoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader