Yes, I got them at the House of Tropicals in Glen Burnie, Md. The male is very aggressive. I thought the pair had spawned because I couldn't find the female. After searching the tank for a while, I found her hiding in the top back corner of the tank. I think I will go back and get extra females to see if that will nullify this behavoir. The male doesn't seem to mind the white clouds I have in the tank. The challenge is now to spawn them or just simply, alive. Francine __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader