I maintained this fish for several years.... always had problems giving them away. Like Mike W said, they spawned like convicts, I had no problems with fertility issues, i always had huge batches of fry around all the time. Because this fish gets fairly large and looks like a non colorful version of an Aequidens type fish, I had hard time selling or even giving the fish away. Even when i sold the large adult pair at an auction I got very little for them. The fry most of the time ended up being used as feeder stock for other larger Central and South American Cichlids i was raising. I dont know anyone that i distributed the fish to that are still maintaining the species. It is too bad that this fish isnt a very colorful fish, when at adult size, they had very nice finnage. My water conditions for raising this species, was pH 6.0 or maybe less, temps around 78F, hardness was < 50ppm. I fed varied diet of Tetra Bits ( now ColorBits ) Spirulina Flake food, Shrimp pellets, frozen bloodworms.... they ate just about anything that was offered to them. If anyone finds this species, good luck with them, I enjoyed the species but gave them up to work with other newer species. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader