Hallo. The swedish well known Dr Sven O Kullander at Department of Vertebrate Zoology ? Swedish Museum of Natural History got a page: http://www.nrm.se/ve/pisces/acara/apistogr.shtml Apistogramma bitaeniata Pellegrin, 1936 (Apistogramma sweglesi Meinken, 1961) (Apistogramma klausewitzi Meinken, 1962) (Apistogramma kleei Meinken, 1964) So, may A. kleei be the red form A. bitaeniata? Check this japanese page out for a pic: http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/kleei.html and many other very nice pictures: http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/e_gallary_ap.html /Pär Jansson ***************************************************** CARL BRO TEKNIKKONSULT AB Pär Jansson E-post: par.jansson@carlbro.se ***************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader