David, i sure will be looking more closely now when i'll go around wild rams! looking forward to seeing some. take care PS: sorry for the late post! Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of David Sanchez Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:06 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: RE: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now wild variations Yvan I got those many years ago and I didn't have a digital camera like I do now. It would be nice if we as a group would keep on eye out for stuff like that I sure would like to get my hands on some of those "red rams" they were so pretty as I recall They seemed to have a red glow to them like the yellow wild ram but they were red. Dave Sanchez --- Yvan Alleau <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu> wrote: > David , > would you happen to have pictures of the red form of > M. ramiretzi you are > talking about? > They sound interesting. > thx > > Yvan Alleau > 712 NW Kings Blvd > Corvallis, OR 97330 > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences > Oregon State University > office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! > home: 738-0606 > > PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: > yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu > > "When you're far from everything, you're getting > closer to the essential" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of > David Sanchez > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 4:27 PM > To: apisto@listbox.com > Subject: Re: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now > wild variations > > > Mike all of the Rams were very uniform in that they > looked yellow as the male in the picture. The > females > Mike had very distinct blue spots even more then the > male in the pic so to me it was not that diffrent > because the females blue spots were even more > distinct. Any idea about of a "more red" wild ram. I > once had some I swear had a redish hugh to them they > were pretty nice. > > Dave Sanchez > > > > --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote: > > Dave, > > > > Were the other Rams that came in with this fish > all > > the same color? BTW, it's > > the strangest looking male I've ever seen. The > blue > > scales throughout the flank > > spot are typical of every female Ram I've ever > seen. > > > > Mike Wise > > > > David Sanchez wrote: > > > > > hereis the link for the pic of the wild yellow > ram > > I > > > am talking about > > > > http://www.geocities.com/barbax2/yellow_ram_2.jpg > > > > > > Dave Sanchez > > > > > > --- David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I have a question for us all out there in > Apisto > > > > world. Perhaps Mike W could be of use here we > > have > > > > been talking about population or geographic > > > > difrrences > > > > with our fish. I know that wild rams come in > > many > > > > shapes and sizes. I have seen wild rams with > > allot > > > > of > > > > red on them and wild rams with more blue I > have > > also > > > > seen wild rams that were almost yellow! > > > > Hedre is a pic of a colubian ram I dont know > the > > > > location but I do know they came from Columbia > > and > > > > this is a wild ram! this is the father of my > > Gold > > > > ram > > > > line I have been line breeding. so anyone else > > have > > > > thoughts on Ram population variations. The > > prettiest > > > > Rams I ever saw were ones that I could only > > describe > > > > as being mostly red all ove rthey had a red > > kinda > > > > glow > > > > to them of course this is all subtle and shows > > best > > > > when they are in the proper environment. > > > > > > > > Dave Sanchez > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > More > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > > unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > Trading at > > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe > > or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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