I just picked up some of the "yellow" looking rams I had the picture of. A friend asked me if I wanted his wild rams because they never seemed to get happy. Well after a week they have fattned up and I clearly see they are the "yellow" looking rams I spoke of. So from this I have to suspect they are not so uncommon your advice is good we should look at wild rams more closely. My friend is happy he did because he now has a group of wild rams he just needed to up the temp a bit for them, I convinced him to keep them and just change a few things to make them happier. well wow they look nice indeed. dave sanchez --- Yvan Alleau <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu> wrote: > David, > i sure will be looking more closely now when i'll go > around wild rams! > looking forward to seeing some. > take care > > PS: sorry for the late post! > > Yvan Alleau > 712 NW Kings Blvd > Corvallis, OR 97330 > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences > Oregon State University > office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! > home: 738-0606 > > PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: > yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu > > "When you're far from everything, you're getting > closer to the essential" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of > David Sanchez > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:06 PM > To: apisto@listbox.com > Subject: RE: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now > wild variations > > > Yvan I got those many years ago and I didn't have a > digital camera like I do now. It would be nice if we > as a group would keep on eye out for stuff like that > I > sure would like to get my hands on some of those > "red > rams" they were so pretty as I recall They seemed to > have a red glow to them like the yellow wild ram but > they were red. > > Dave Sanchez > > > --- Yvan Alleau <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu> > wrote: > > David , > > would you happen to have pictures of the red form > of > > M. ramiretzi you are > > talking about? > > They sound interesting. > > thx > > > > Yvan Alleau > > 712 NW Kings Blvd > > Corvallis, OR 97330 > > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences > > Oregon State University > > office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! > > home: 738-0606 > > > > PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: > > yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu > > > > "When you're far from everything, you're getting > > closer to the essential" > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf > Of > > David Sanchez > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 4:27 PM > > To: apisto@listbox.com > > Subject: Re: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now > > wild variations > > > > > > Mike all of the Rams were very uniform in that > they > > looked yellow as the male in the picture. The > > females > > Mike had very distinct blue spots even more then > the > > male in the pic so to me it was not that diffrent > > because the females blue spots were even more > > distinct. Any idea about of a "more red" wild ram. > I > > once had some I swear had a redish hugh to them > they > > were pretty nice. > > > > Dave Sanchez > > > > > > > > --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > > > Were the other Rams that came in with this fish > > all > > > the same color? BTW, it's > > > the strangest looking male I've ever seen. The > > blue > > > scales throughout the flank > > > spot are typical of every female Ram I've ever > > seen. > > > > > > Mike Wise > > > > > > David Sanchez wrote: > > > > > > > hereis the link for the pic of the wild yellow > > ram > > > I > > > > am talking about > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/barbax2/yellow_ram_2.jpg > > > > > > > > Dave Sanchez > > > > > > > > --- David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > I have a question for us all out there in > > Apisto > > > > > world. Perhaps Mike W could be of use here > we > > > have > > > > > been talking about population or geographic > > > > > difrrences > > > > > with our fish. I know that wild rams come in > > > many > > > > > shapes and sizes. I have seen wild rams with > > > allot > > > > > of > > > > > red on them and wild rams with more blue I > > have > > > also > > > > > seen wild rams that were almost yellow! > > > > > Hedre is a pic of a colubian ram I dont know > > the > > > > > location but I do know they came from > Columbia > > > and > > > > > this is a wild ram! this is the father of my > > > Gold > > > > > ram > > > > > line I have been line breeding. so anyone > else > > > have > > > > > thoughts on Ram population variations. The > > > prettiest > > > > > Rams I ever saw were ones that I could only > > > describe > > > > > as being mostly red all ove rthey had a red > > > kinda > > > > > glow > > > > > to them of course this is all subtle and > shows > > > best > > > > > when they are in the proper environment. > > > > > > > > > > Dave Sanchez > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > > More > > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > > apisto@listbox.com. > > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > > > unsubscribe or get help, > > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > > > Web archives at > http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > Trading at > > > > > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > > apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > > unsubscribe > > > or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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