Francine, I like LFS Cultures for my live food supplies. (http://www.lfscultures.com) A large size grindal worm culture of theirs comes in a white plastic freezer container (not the smallest size but the one size up), the type commonly sold at the canning supply section in every supermarket. They are packed in peat moss and very clean. Another place I tried sent me less for the similar price. They multiply pretty quickly but I suppose you can get a lot more from your friend for the same price, provided your friend has a large thriving and clean culture of worms. Hope this helps, Tomoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader