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RE: leaf prep(sterilization)

To: apisto@listbox.com
Subject: RE: leaf prep(sterilization)
From: "Colin Gorton" <mr_apisto@graffiti.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:14 +0100
Mine come from one of Catalunya's most important Natural Parks, Montseny (pron. Montseñ,) I think anybody using pesticides would be in serious trouble.
I also contribute to a Spanish forum (for those interested it's drpez.com) where I appear to have caused quite a stir by suggesting the use of oak leaves. I've been using them for 4 years now (although I stopped fro about a year.)
C:-)lin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hatfield or Kim Rogers-Hatfield" <stevekim@indy.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:44:58 -0500
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Subject: RE: leaf prep(sterilization)

> I don't do anything to my oak leaves, just throw them in the tank. and I
> haven't had a problem been using them for years I use leaves from a
> natural area where they probably don't have any chemicals on them.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com] On Behalf Of Matt & Linda
> Crocker
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 6:20 PM
> To: apisto@listbox.com
> Subject: Re: leaf prep(sterilization)
> 
> Colin,
> 
>     Did you see the critter come in on the leaves?  Or do you think it
> must have?  Maybe it was a slug?  Was it still alive?
> 
>     I put some leaves in my A panduro tank last week without doing any
> sterilizing and now I'm worried.  It looks very natural in the tank now
> and I really like the looks, I'm going to go out and get some more.
> 
>     I wonder what cooked oak leaves smell like.
> 
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin Gorton" <mr_apisto@graffiti.net>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:00 PM
> Subject: RE: leaf prep(sterilization)
> 
> 
> > I don't know hat it was but I just got rid of some sort of worm
> (leach?) from oak leaves that I collected from a VERY dry site. It had
> been in the tank for a week or so. I'll certainly be boiling all my
> leaves in future. I must admit I found it hard to believe it when I saw
> it.
> > C:)lin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu>
> > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:10:06 -0800
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Subject: RE: leaf prep(sterilization)
> >
> > > Hi Matt,
> > > I would at least boil them in order to get read of all/most of the
> bacteria,
> > > fungi and small bugs (parasite) that they contain.
> > > It is unlikely however that these critters would survive in an
> aquatic
> > > medium if you collected the leaves on land. If collected in swamps,
> river
> > > bed, wet banks, ponds, etc.. i would think that their hosts would be
> adapted
> > > to living under water and would therefore be more of a threat.
> > > I think that boiling them will also remove some of the tanin they
> contain,
> > > so if you are choosing them for that aspect more than for the
> habitat (and
> > > look) they will create, do not boil them for too long. Boiling them
> would
> > > also make them sink.
> > > have a good we
> > > c ya
> > >
> > > Yvan Alleau
> > > 450 SE Atwood Ave
> > > Corvallis, OR 97333
> > > (541) 752-0320
> > >
> > > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > > Oregon State University
> > > Burt 222: (541) 737-3649
> > >
> > > "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the
> essential"
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> > > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Matt & Linda
> Crocker
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:31 AM
> > > To: apisto list
> > > Subject: leaf prep(sterilization)
> > >
> > >
> > >     I have more oak leaves than I can use, and more than I want to
> rake.
> > > Do these need to be sterilized? Or just use them right out of the
> yard?
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > C:-)lin
> >
> > They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure
> enough...
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C:-)lin

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