Hello Mike I got some of those fish from Oliver too.... He had a huge tank full of them, awesome looking fish in great shape. The species is a mouthbrooder, females pick up wigglers after they hatch not eggs before they hatch...... common name for the species is Sp Maulbruter ..... german for mouthbrooder. I have a trio in a 55 that have spawned and given me fry. Such a beautiful species.... females can be aggressive in brood care so be careful of the pair. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader