Hey all, Took a trip up to That Pet Place a week or so ago and saw a tank of A sp. Senger.. but I've never heard that name used before. These were in r-o-u-g-h shape, I mean BAD. Employees said they were wild caught, and had just come in two days before. They looked a lot like standard A. cacatuoides though.. same tail shape, big chunky heads, largish lips. The fright pattern was too intense to discern anything else. No color whatsoever to report. Anyone heard of Senger before? Just curious. Also, TPT had a tank marked aggasizi that was NOT aggies at all. Compact and round body shape, not elongated by any means. Of note: the lateral band was notched just behind the operculum. By this I mean that the lateral band was bent, or otherwise distorted, not that it was discontinuous. All of the fish in the tank were like this, so I don't think it was just an odd deformity. They were teeny tiny, hardly bigger than 3 mo. old A. cf. eunotus fry, probably a conservation 3/4". Lateral band also ran right into the caudal peduncle spot and fused with it.. looked odd. The interesting thing about these is that all of the fish were "speckled" with small black spots here and there. I really don't think it was a disease - spots weren't symmetrical. So is there a tiny speckled Apisto that I haven't read about yet? Last.. its time to complain. It's been three months since the A. cf. eunotus decided they would spawn.. I've changed quite a lot of things in the tank every few weeks or so to see if it would initiate a spawn but its been to no avail. The pair has only produced one good spawn with a few survivors. Now normally I would just believe that conditions aren't optimal but every time I change the environment the pencilfish spawn. (I'll mention that Apisto's lo-ove Pencil caviar.) Anywho.. I thought pencils weren't all that easy to get to spawn.. so what's wrong with the darnable eunotus?? Hmm?? [No one needs to respond to this part.. I'm just being impossibly impatient. ;)] I wish I spoke fish. >Sarah __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader