Re: A. sp. "Senger"?/pencils/speckled Apisto?

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Sarah,

I've never hear of A. sp. Senger before, but exporters are always putting new
names to old - and sometimes new - fish. On the blotchy apisto front, several
years ago I did pick up some blue fin/yellow body cacatuoides-like fish with
similar irregular black blotches on their bodies. These fish turned out to be
A. cf. cacatuoides (Putumayo). My fish were fairly elongate even for an A.
cacatuoides, however. The black blotches didn't affect them. They grew up &
spawned all over the place.

Re: your eunotus form, this is strange. These are a white-/clearwater species &
can be bred even in neutral, moderately hard, water. You don't mention water
conditions, but I imagine it is suitable. You say your pencils spawn. Do you
ever get fry? Well fed pencils in suitable, but not optimal, water conditions
will lay eggs, but the egg/fry don't survive. Depending on the species, I have
had them consistently "pop out of the weed" without any special attention in
successful apisto breeding tanks. You might want to consider checking some
things. How high is the conductivity? If it is over 200µS/cm your water water
probably isn't best for developing eggs & fry. Also, don't continually change
things in the tank. This could be disrupting territories & bothering the fish.
Just some suggestions.

Mike Wise

Mike Wise

"S. Lardizabal" wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Took a trip up to That Pet Place a week or so ago and
> saw a tank of A sp. Senger.. but I've never heard that
> name used before.  These were in r-o-u-g-h shape, I
> mean BAD.  Employees said they were wild caught, and
> had just come in two days before.  They looked a lot
> like standard A. cacatuoides though.. same tail shape,
> big chunky heads, largish lips.  The fright pattern
> was too intense to discern anything else.  No color
> whatsoever to report.
>
> Anyone heard of Senger before?  Just curious.
>
> Also, TPT had a tank marked aggasizi that was NOT
> aggies at all.  Compact and round body shape, not
> elongated by any means.  Of note: the lateral band was
> notched just behind the operculum.  By this I mean
> that the lateral band was bent, or otherwise
> distorted, not that it was discontinuous.  All of the
> fish in the tank were like this, so I don't think it
> was just an odd deformity.  They were teeny tiny,
> hardly bigger than 3 mo. old A. cf. eunotus fry,
> probably a conservation 3/4".  Lateral band also ran
> right into the caudal peduncle spot and fused with
> it.. looked odd.
>
> The interesting thing about these is that all of the
> fish were "speckled" with small black spots here and
> there.  I really don't think it was a disease - spots
> weren't symmetrical.  So is there a tiny speckled
> Apisto that I haven't read about yet?
>
> Last.. its time to complain.  It's been three months
> since the A. cf. eunotus decided they would spawn..
> I've changed quite a lot of things in the tank every
> few weeks or so to see if it would initiate a spawn
> but its been to no avail.  The pair has only produced
> one good spawn with a few survivors.  Now normally I
> would just believe that conditions aren't optimal but
> every time I change the environment the pencilfish
> spawn.  (I'll mention that Apisto's lo-ove Pencil
> caviar.)  Anywho.. I thought pencils weren't all that
> easy to get to spawn.. so what's wrong with the
> darnable eunotus??  Hmm??  [No one needs to respond to
> this part.. I'm just being impossibly impatient.  ;)]
>
> I wish I spoke fish.
>
> >Sarah
>
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