RE: Surrogate mother

["Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu>]

hi Erick,
well i did try something like that awhile ago as i was missing some space.
I've tried to put some A. borelli with a female aggie that had young of the
same age. She immediately tried to bring them into the clutch of her own fry
but the problem was that the babies borelli did not recognise her as their
mom but rather as a predator and were not answering her "calls". They do not
react to the same body motion or whatever body position, sound, etc... The
fry at that age looked very similar.
Finally mom got mad of the fry that were fleeing from her and whenever she
could catch one she would kill them. She carried her own fry out very nicely
but you could tell that she was disturb by the "refractory" kids !
I guess that could work with species more "related". Also, i have seen
female N. anomala accepting fry from A. species (can recall what right now).
my 2 centimes

Yvan Alleau
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(541) 752-0320
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College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University

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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:24 PM
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Subject: Surrogate mother


Hey all,
	I am going to do an experiment in the next few weeks.  I have had the
worst time spawning my Badis badis burmanicus. They spawn, I will see
wigglers in the pot, but then they "disappear". Everything I have read and
been told is that with just the pair in the tank, the fry should be fine.
So I stole the wigglers last time and they are free swimming and doing well
now.
	Now here is where I tie all this into the Apisto world.  I have a pair of
A. cacatuoides "Orange Flash" that just recently spawned and they have
wigglers.  Once the caca fry are free swimming I am going to put the badis
fry in with them and the female.  Has anyone ever tried something like
this? Any thoughts?

Later,
Eric


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