Hello, Teleocichla monogramma has a different pattern and a different head shape. The spotted pattern of the female is a trait of T. centrarchus, females of monogramma are not spotted. best regards, Michael ___________ Michael NEGRINI n°AFC 1851.32 cichlidae@ifrance.com http://www.cichlidaefr.net http://perso.terrariofr.com/mikl/ http://theraphosidae.netliberte.org http://213.41.134.35/cetoine.net//phpBB2/index.php ICQ #35720218 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Roese" <Cichlids1@direcway.com> To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Teleochicla monogramma Don't think they are dark enough. They look exactly like the T. monogramma pictured in Romer's atlas and meets the description he uses almost exactly. How did you determine they were centrarchus? Thanks, Ken At 11:14 AM 3/1/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >your fish is Teleocichla centrarchus. They are often sold as T. monogramma >(who is rarely imported). > >best regards, Michael >___________ > >Michael NEGRINI n°AFC 1851.32 >cichlidae@ifrance.com >http://www.cichlidaefr.net >http://perso.terrariofr.com/mikl/ >http://theraphosidae.netliberte.org >http://213.41.134.35/cetoine.net//phpBB2/index.php >ICQ #35720218 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ken Roese" <Cichlids1@direcway.com> >To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> >Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:36 AM >Subject: RE: Teleochicla monogramma > > > > I've got some pics up on my site of my T. monogramma. Had them for several > > months now, even managed a couple spawns but nothing to show for their > > efforts. I used Romer's Dwarf Atlas as the basis for setting up their >tank. > > Deep sand, decent current, WARM (90 - 92F). They eat just about anything > > but flake for me. They really like frozen mysis. It goes without saying, > > but clean water is a must for these guys. > > > > Pictures: > > > > http://www.roundtownaquatics.com/images/male_telocichla.jpg > > http://www.roundtownaquatics.com/images/telocichla_pair.jpg > > http://www.roundtownaquatics.com/images/telocichla_pair.jpg > > > > Interesting fish, wouldn't mind having a colony of them :) > > > > Ken > > http://www.roundtownaquatics.com > > > > At 10:46 AM 2/28/2003 -0800, you wrote: > > >Uwe's book has a nice write up on them. nice pictures plenty of text. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com]On > > >Behalf Of LeeH920226@aol.com > > >Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:46 AM > > >To: apisto@v2.listbox.com > > >Subject: Re: Teleochicla monogramma > > > > > > > > >There is a picture in AquaLog Southamerican Cichlids I. > > > > > >Lee Harper > > >Media, PA > > >USA > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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