soft water causes higher dorsal fins in apistos? Well ..... i really dont believe that..... my tap water is really soft..... does this explain why my cacatuoides have 4 inch high dorsal fins? 8-) To be honest here... yes i know theres a first time for everything..... shut up Mike J.... lol I've been keeping apistos for a long time now and have never seen any difference in the finnage of my fish because of my water.. Do i get some really nice fins on my fish.... yes!!! But i claim that to proper care, not the water itself..... And i have a preference to fish with the high dorsals.... which is why i keep, Cacatuoides, Norberti, trifasciata, Bitaeniata, sp Maulbruter, Juruensis, Hoignei and MacMasteri Even my Atahualpa dont have extremely large dorsals...... but hey, you never know i guess Springtime Johnny ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader