A few articles suggested using "Mystery Snails" instead of Apple Snails ... for 2 reasons: 1 - Mystery Snails do not eat live plant leaves whereas Apples will. 2 - Mystery Snails do not attack fry. At least this is what I recall reading .... this is one of the articles. http://www.jayscustomcomputers.com/wilma/ Ken G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader