Alfredo, I do not believe that A. panduro is extremely aggressive. This apisto forms pairs that tend to jointly guard the breeding territory together. They are a robust fish that can easily hurt or kill a D. filamentosus if the fish cannot escape the panduro's territory (which can be large). If your water will not drop below pH 6 using sphagnum peat, then you have a KH problem. D. filamentosus requires almost mineral free water - especially the KH. I see 2 options: dilute your tap water with distilled, R/O, or rainwater, or use hydrochloric acid to reduce the KH (and pH). If you use the acid, remember that it is dangerous. Never mix it in a tank with fish. Mix it with water that you will added to the tank. Also remember that using acid will raise the conductivity of the water - something that D. filamentosus does not like. Mike Wise Alfredo Figueiredo wrote: > Everyone tells me about the panduro agressivity, is it so evil? ;) > I plan to breed the D. filamentosus but in another tank (120L). However, it > has the same water. It's a tap water (pH 7) filtered with peat (I can't get > below 6). > What should I do to get the 5,5? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com> > To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:29 AM > Subject: Re: Dicrossus filamentosus > > > Alfredo, > > > > Your D. filamentosus should do fine in your tank as long as they can hide > from > > you A. panduro. I doubt that they will successfully breed in your > aquarium, > > however. They require a pH below 6 (preferably below pH 5.5). If they > spawn, I > > am sure that the P. axelrodi will eat every fry. The female is not as > protective > > as an apisto female. > > > > Mike Wise > > > > Alfredo Figueiredo wrote: > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > Today I bought my first pair of D. filamentosus (by the way, it was > named > > > Crenicara filamentosus...). They had beautiful individuals in their > tanks, > > > all of them very nice: great colors, perfect shapes and isolated couples > in > > > separate tanks (one of them was ready to spawn, with the typical > breeding > > > pattern). > > > > > > I just wanted to know what are the main differences to the apistos.. so > far, > > > on south-american cichlids, I've only tried A. cacatuoides. > > > > > > My tank is a 240L planted, pH 6,0; dh very low, 27ºC. > > > Tankmates: > > > - 2x S. aequifasciata axelrodi 'Santarem' > > > - Pair A. cacatuoides > > > - Pair A. pandurini > > > - 10x tetra cardinal > > > > > > If someone has special advices about this new fish, thanks! ;) > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader