Mike And i thought you would answer the Ram fry question ...... not this one...... i thought , maybe being Bastille day, we'd see some fireworks on the list lol Adirondack Johnny ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader