I have a bit of a perplexing problem. I have a pair of Cacatouide Males, one of them is a very nice looking Triple red I received back in March. The other is a so-so double male I picked up at a fish store in the Bay Area last month. The trouble is the triple red. He is in a 25 gallon old petsmart tank with a couple of females. The females have come into season three times since I have set up the tank, but each time the male just ignores them. Now, the male I picked up last month is not as good looking, but I he was putting on displays for the females in his tank (3 of them) within 10 minutes of being introduced to his tank. The water quality is pretty good for cacatouides: ph 7.4, temp 78, gh: 1, kh: 1. The tank bottom are measures about 18" square. There are a pair of black neon's and three pencil fish as dithers. The tank is modestly planted. There is a picture of the set-up on my website: home.bak.rr.com/alansfishroom in the livestock question (its the bottom picture). This tank is part of a 25 gallon system that shares water with a Ram tank, and a zebra Danoi tank. Is the 25 gallon tank large enough for both males? or should I pull out my nice looking reluctant male in favor of the less attractive male. Are there any tricks I could use to get the male to pay attention to the females! Thanks all, --C. Alan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader