Matt, There are several new nijsseni-group species that have appeared in the past year or so. Each species seems to have more than 1 name. A. sp. Inca, which I originally called "A. sp. Hi-fin Nijsseni" when I introduced the species in a program at the 2002 Greater Chicago Cichlid Association convention, look like A. nijsseni with a highly extended & serrated dorsal fin like A. sp. Breitbinden. A. sp. Hifin "Panduro", or A. sp. Urias, was introduced in the US - along with A. sp. Inca - in an article in TFH (Jan. 2003) by Oliver Lucanus. This fish looks much like A. panduro with a slightly extended, serrated dorsal fin (like that of A. macmasteri) and less red on the caudal fin. The second "Hifin Nijsseni" was originally offered as A. sp. Inca, but is actually more closely related to A. payaminonis. I believe that Mike Jacobs sells it as A. cf. payaminonis. Oliver sells it as "Hifin Nijsseni". Since the name was originally used for Inca, I think that there will be some confusion. I suggest dropping this label. This fish looks like A. nijsseni, but also shows some black patches below the lateral band in the caudal peduncle area, like A. payaminonis. The dorsal fin is slightly elongated, slightly serrated (like A. eunotus forms). Mike Jacob web site has photos of this fish. I hope this helps. Mike Wise Matt & Linda Crocker wrote: > How do we tell which one we have? > > Matt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geo/Len" <szucs@videotron.ca> > To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: incas > > > Which Inca do you have High Fin Nijsseni or Hign Fin Panduro?? > > > > My spawn of High Fin Nijsseni I have at least 40 plus fry`s > > > > George > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Archie Christian" <achrist@jhmi.edu> > > To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:42 PM > > Subject: incas > > > > > > My Incas spawned and I have about 12 free-swimming fry. Can > anyone tell me > > if this is a normal size batch or if that number is low. I think > that this > > number varies with species. > > Thanks, Archie > > > > Archie Christian > > Lab Coordinator/Senior Research Technician > > NSBRI Radiation Effects Team > > Phone (443) 287-3053 > > Pager (410) 283-9300 > > Email Achrist@jhmi.edu > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also > available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also > available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader