Thank you, John! I was ambivalent about trying cardinals due to its similarity to neons. I will give them a try. Cardinals are known to school tighter, which is great in the planted tank. Neons did not stick together too well. If they do well, I will put some more apistos in the tank as well. Tomoko ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader