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Re: A. sp. 'Pimentel'



Hmm,that looks like the fish I bought a while back as pertensis.
I have to get a good picture of them now.
Max



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From: Per Wigstal <per_wigstal@yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: A. sp. 'Pimentel'
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:22:04 +0100 (BST)

Hello

Here´s a link to a pic on a japanese page:

http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/pimentel.html

Best regards/ Per

Jim Neuner <JimNeuner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Does anyone have pics of these A. sp. Pimental. I have a pair that
were listed as Discrosus Tapajós and would like to compare.

Jim Neuner


On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Mike & Diane Wise wrote:

> Per,
>
> According to Koslowsk (2002) A. sp. Pimental (correct spelling) is
> actually a geographic population of A. cf. pertensis from the lower
> Rio Tapajós of Brazil. A. cf. pertensis was the fish originally
> thought to be A. meinkeni until Koslowski (1985) proved that it didn't
> conform to the true meinkeni. Then it was called A. cf. meinkeni.
> Römer introduced live specimens of the true A. meinkeni into the
> hobby in the late 90s & showing it was a true dwarf apisto, which
> Pimental is not. Males can reach almost 6 cm long. This form remains
> smaller than some other geographic forms, but grows larger than others
> (like A. sp. Orange-seam/Orangesaum, Minima, White-seam/Weißsaum). I
> guess it would more accurately called A. cf. pertensis (Pimental).
>
> I bet that Pete's fish came from Trop Rio/Apisto Heaven (Rio de
> Janeiro). Marco Lacerda tends to go out & find the rare ones. Oliver
> brings in his fish, I think.
>
> Mike Wise
>
>
> Per Wigstal wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> You have found one of the species on my top five list! But I live in
>> Sweden so I will not be able to buy the remaining three :-(
>> Do you have any idea from what exporter in South america these fishes
>> came from? Can you check?
>> We have a nice shop in south of sweden who is regulary importing
>> apistos from S-A. So perhaps they can also get hold of some pimentel.
>> I will get a box of wildcaught Ap. Commbrae next week from them! And
>> the Commbrae have been no. one on my list for at least five years.
>> Well, take good care of your Ap. sp. Pimentel. It seems to be a very
>> interesting species. Get some fry´s from them and spread them around.
>> Perhaps some will end up in Sweden :-)
>> Best regards/ Per
>>
>>
>> "Liptrot, Pete"
wrote:
>> Picked up four of these over the weekend, lovely little fish.
>> They were mixed in with a shipment of Tapajos Dicrossus, just as
>> suggested
>> in the Atlas. They are in an aquarium with a good four inches of leaf
>> litter, and they are demonstrating just how well they can use this
>> sort of
>> substrate. There are still three left at the dealer if anyone else
>> wants to
>> have a try with them.
>> Pete
>>
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