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Re: A. sp. 'Pimentel'

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Subject: Re: A. sp. 'Pimentel'
From: Yvan Alleau <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
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i was about to make the same remark. I got some pertensis that look a lot
like those. Are they part of they related?

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Max Gallade wrote:

> Hmm,that looks like the fish I bought a while back as pertensis.
> I have to get a good picture of them now.
> Max
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> >From: Per Wigstal <per_wigstal@yahoo.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
> >To: apisto@v2.listbox.com
> >Subject: Re: A. sp. 'Pimentel'
> >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:22:04 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Hello
> >
> >Here´s a link to a pic on a japanese page:
> >
> >http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/pimentel.html
> >
> >Best regards/ Per
> >
> >Jim Neuner <JimNeuner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >Does anyone have pics of these A. sp. Pimental. I have a pair that
> >were listed as Discrosus Tapajós and would like to compare.
> >
> >Jim Neuner
> >
> >
> >On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Mike & Diane Wise wrote:
> >
> > > Per,
> > >
> > > According to Koslowsk (2002) A. sp. Pimental (correct spelling) is
> > > actually a geographic population of A. cf. pertensis from the lower
> > > Rio Tapajós of Brazil. A. cf. pertensis was the fish originally
> > > thought to be A. meinkeni until Koslowski (1985) proved that it didn't
> > > conform to the true meinkeni. Then it was called A. cf. meinkeni.
> > > Römer introduced live specimens of the true A. meinkeni into the
> > > hobby in the late 90s & showing it was a true dwarf apisto, which
> > > Pimental is not. Males can reach almost 6 cm long. This form remains
> > > smaller than some other geographic forms, but grows larger than others
> > > (like A. sp. Orange-seam/Orangesaum, Minima, White-seam/Weißsaum). I
> > > guess it would more accurately called A. cf. pertensis (Pimental).
> > >
> > > I bet that Pete's fish came from Trop Rio/Apisto Heaven (Rio de
> > > Janeiro). Marco Lacerda tends to go out & find the rare ones. Oliver
> > > brings in his fish, I think.
> > >
> > > Mike Wise
> > >
> > >
> > > Per Wigstal wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi
> > >> You have found one of the species on my top five list! But I live in
> > >> Sweden so I will not be able to buy the remaining three :-(
> > >> Do you have any idea from what exporter in South america these fishes
> > >> came from? Can you check?
> > >> We have a nice shop in south of sweden who is regulary importing
> > >> apistos from S-A. So perhaps they can also get hold of some pimentel.
> > >> I will get a box of wildcaught Ap. Commbrae next week from them! And
> > >> the Commbrae have been no. one on my list for at least five years.
> > >> Well, take good care of your Ap. sp. Pimentel. It seems to be a very
> > >> interesting species. Get some fry´s from them and spread them around.
> > >> Perhaps some will end up in Sweden :-)
> > >> Best regards/ Per
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Liptrot, Pete"
> >wrote:
> > >> Picked up four of these over the weekend, lovely little fish.
> > >> They were mixed in with a shipment of Tapajos Dicrossus, just as
> > >> suggested
> > >> in the Atlas. They are in an aquarium with a good four inches of leaf
> > >> litter, and they are demonstrating just how well they can use this
> > >> sort of
> > >> substrate. There are still three left at the dealer if anyone else
> > >> wants to
> > >> have a try with them.
> > >> Pete
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