>Is anyone else having the same problem? Yes, I have not been able to see them either. While I think about it, has anyone got any suggestions for what appears to be a regani-group Apisto from the Rio Negro? A branch of Maidenhead Aquatics near Warrington had in a batch of mixed wild Apistos, and as they've grown there are pertensis-group fish, some A. gephyra, and a few that are very difficult to place. They look most like A. geisleri (but from the wrong area unless it was just the remainder from two or three batches that got sent), with very pale bodies, and few markings other than two or three indistinct spots along the mid-line. Pete ____________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may also be legally privileged. They are intended solely for the intended addressee. If you are not the addressee please e-mail it back to the sender and then immediately, permanently delete it. Do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it. This e-mail may be monitored by Bolton MBC in accordance with current regulations. This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses currently known to the Council. However, the recipient is responsible for virus-checking before opening this message and any attachment. Unless expressly stated to the contrary, any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Bolton MBC. http://www.bolton.gov.uk ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader