Wormy, This is how I do my bbs. I use a 2 liter bottle. I clean it with a bleach and water solution by filling the bottle with hot water in a sink and then pour a couple ounces of bleach in it. Then I put the top on the container and let it slowly go out through the hose. Once it's empty, a few minutes later, I rinse it with hot water and wipe the interior and the top with a clean paper towel. I even get the build up of gunk in the cap with a q-tip. To set it up for use. I hook it back to the air source. Then I fill it to 2 inches from the top with warm water straight from the tap. Do not use dechlorinator. I use the touch system for getting the temperature right. Something like how mothers check the temperature of the milk in a bottle on their elbow. Around 80 degrees or so, I guess. The water is bubbling furiously and I add two teaspoons of aquarium salt and a pinch of epsom. Next I add one teaspoon of eggs, put the cap on and turn the air down a little. I have a 40 watt bulb that is a few inches from the bottle that stays on all night. If I start the culture at 6 pm one day, it is ready to use by 6 or 7pm the next. One problem I use to have is once I opened a can I made the mistake of not putting the remaining eggs in smaller container like baby food jars and keeping them in the fridge. Otherwise the eggs would seem to go bad and clump and foam instead of hatching as if the container wasn't clean. Good containers to keep the remainder of eggs from a 1 lb can besides baby food jars are empty Tetramin fish food containers. Any type of container that is no more than 4 oz and has a lid that fits securely will work. Old eggs are good for practising decapsulation. HTH __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader