In the last few weeks, I have lost 2 female cactoides to the same condition. Both females have had inflamed anal openings, with what appear to be red 'spkes' sticking out of the openings. The fish loose interest in eating, and then waste away. It appears I have a 3rd female that is developing similar simptoms. All of the fish are of unknown age ( i have had them since April), and only one of the three has ever spawned. These are the female I got for Rik back in April. Any input would be appreciated. --C. Alan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader