Hello Greg If you plan on keeping all 4 fish in that same 10 gallon tank, you're going to have trouble. If you really want to do justice to those fish, place a single pair in a 10 gallon tank... anymore then that and you are going to have casualties. i have kept this species and have found that it does best in pairs... they dont seem to tolerate other fish of the same species in the same tank once a pair has formed. Also, even in a heavily planted tank, a single pair needs several different hiding caves. I have always placed at least 4 different flower pots in my apisto tanks. This way it gives the pair a choice as to where they want to spawn. Even a good mated pair always seems to choose a different spot to spawn with each different spawning. A good varied diet will condition your fish to get them ready for spawning. Live foods works best, daphnia, black worms, brine shrimp, then i go with frozen blood worms, i also use Tetra Color bits and good flake foods with my apistos. Good luck with your fish. Tundra Johnny ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader