Not much action on the board so I will throw this out for comment. I am having trouble with my A. sp. Rio Xingu "red lobes". I have kept them for many years and have never had problems until recently. I have not had a successful spawn in nearly a year. I have three breeding set ups with pairs or groups. The females spawn repeatedly but never produce fry. I have begun pulling eggs because I need to get a young generation to perpetuate the strain. None of the eggs I pull hatch. After about 24 hours a few fungus which I expect as normal, non fertile eggs. The rest stay cherry red and appear to be developing. However, they never hatch. After three days I begin providing occaisional water current on the eggs to help them hatch. I use airline tubing to blow a jet of water directly onto the eggs. I have used this technique for years to help with problem hatchers. After four or so days the eggs get blown from the rock but do not hatch. However, at this point they are still red, non fungused and appear to be fertile. Within a few more days they all gradually fungus. My best guess is that for some reason they are not breaking the egg shell to emerge. This is a repeating pattern with multiple male/female combinations. These are not sibling crosses but are from the sam lineage several generations back. This is not a problem with any of my other Apisto species. Thoughts? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader