Tracie> Do you use anything else to treat your water other than Tracie> the peat? I have never tried to change the levels in my Tracie> tanks..so I a little leary. Also, will adding the peat Tracie> drop the PH too dramatically? My PH is currently running Tracie> about 7.6 & I don't want to shock any of the fish in the Tracie> tank. I soften my local very hard alkaline water with a reverse osmosis unit, then add back a little tap water to give it some body. I occasionally try peat filtration to induce an Apisto to breed, but haven't had consistent results from its use. I have a few tanks which I keep fairly acid -- about 6.0 -- by using acid buffer from SeaChem. It's a good product. I initially got it because it contains no phosphates, unlike most other buffers (Kent also makes a phosphate-free buffer). Excess phosphates promote algae growth. My treated water is very soft, and acidifying it can cause dramatic pH bounces because it has negligible buffering capacity. I have tanks that dropped below a pH of 4 when I was a bit liberal with acidifier. Fortunately Apistos seem pretty pH resilient, but rapid pH changes are not a good idea, and pH values below 4 aren't recommended for any living fish. I acidify verrry carefully now, and my pH rarely drops below 5.5. I keep most tanks between 6.5 and 7. Tracie> I like some of the larger cichlids, but like to have Tracie> a lot of small fish rather than a few large fish. (Though Tracie> I did break down and buy a baby severum...he's still Tracie> playing nice..but he is only the size of a silver dollar Tracie> now!) Large cichlids are beautiful and many have personalities, but I have generally small tanks and generally dwarf cichlids. I like the variety. The dwarfs also cooperate with planted tanks. I do have some beautiful large Geophagus which a friend is boarding with me while he moves from here and gets settled in a new plase. Tracie> My other (smaller) tank is primarily gouramis and Tracie> tetras. Actually, I just recently bred a pair of my Tracie> honey dwarf gouramis.....my first venture into breeding. Tracie> (Still waiting for the babies to get big enough to move Tracie> out of the breeding tank.....I want to try again with Tracie> something else now!!) Breeding is a thrill. I haven't bred much of anything other than livebearers and a number of dwarf cichlid types, but I'd like to breed some other fish sometime, too. Gouramis, Corydoras, Loricariads and some of the pretty tetras: rummynose, in particular. I did just bred some beautiful long-finned white clouds. The babies are colored like neon tetras. ---------------------------------------------------- If wishes were fishes we'd all have ponds. Pete Johnson San Jose, CA petej@tlg.net ----------------------------------------------------