Pete Johnson are you still out there? I was going through my old messages and found a posting from you saying you have A. viejita CFII. Is this the one with the red head and throat as in the Aqualog book? If so how common are they in the States? This has to be one of my favourite apisto's though unfortunately have never seen any out here in the land of Oz. Apparently we just got Aequidens sp. Buckelkopf out here for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Bit pricey though at about $90 US a pair. And if they're anything like dorsiger and curviceps probably close to impossible to sex at the size they're being sold at.(about 2-2.5cm, under an inch) What's your opinion? ______________________________________________________________________________ Simon Mann E-mail: mann@alf.chem.su.oz.au School of Chemistry Work: (02) 9351-5747 The University of Sydney Fax: (02) 9351-3329 N.S.W., 2006, Australia. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------