I was wondering if anyone had any insight on this topic. I have placed two male and three female rams in a 15 gallon tank in the hopes that they will breed. I moved some of these fish from my 45gal community tank and bought some. After moving the fish, I noticed that the fish were noticeably jumpier and _really_ afraid of me. They wouldn't even come out when I fed them. Thinking some dither fish would help, I added three neon tetras to the tank, but to no avail. I think the tank has plenty of cover, with, among other things, two small flower pots and a large clump of java moss. Why are these fish suddenly so shy? They don't seem to be in the store tanks where they're crammed into a 10 gallon tank with a bunch of other fish. They also aren't shy in my 45 community tank. So what gives? I was thinking that other types of dwarfs might be better dither fish than the tetras, who had absolutely no effect. Any ideas are appreciated. Tom Work Phone: (206)-543-1075 Physical Mail: Box 352700 Fax: (206)-543-1543 University of Washington Home Page : http://www.ce.washington.edu/~tep Seattle, WA 98195