Frank..........To you and everyone I am sorry for the problems my school server caused...Notice the new E-Mail: mfjacobs@geocities.com Ok everyone lets go. My A. jurensis spawned for the frist time.....no good, fungsed. But a pair of A. 'aggies' 'RED' I got from Tom just spawned 2 days ago.......cross your fingers.........beautiful parents!!! I agree with Tom.........parent raised young grow faster than those pulled.......don't know why, but it's true. I pulled my A. 'aggies' but that is to insure I save some of the babies from a first spawn. From noqw on mama gets the job. It's good to be back.........Bill, how are those youngsters??? Frank.....i just realized this is not on the 'list'.....would you snip and do so ?????? Thanks Mike