James........A little red in the dorsal fin, maybe up to a splotch in the caudal fin and it's a 'normal'........a great deal of red in the dorsal and a great deal of red in the caudal and it's a 'double-red'. Red in the dorsal caudal and anal is a 'triple red'. At this moment the strains are NOT breeding anywhere's near true........maybe only 10-30% of the males will be what they are suppose to be.....but that's ok, that just leaves work yet to be done. We are in on the beginnings of the "new" Apisto era....and it's fun. Mike