Thanks to all for their postings regarding Apistogramma borellii. Question? Many on the list I'm sure have experience or are currently breeding some kind of dwarf cichlid. Does anyone have a problem selling there fry? Either at at store or local hobbiest? Right now I'm working with 7 different Apistos and 3 West Africans. I would like to see these fish more in stores but I just don't see it happening. Kurt Zadnik was at our club meeting this month. In our conversation, I asked him what people ask him the most when they call. Number one question, Where do I get these fish? I would say that I am fortunate or spoiled to some extent. With at least 4 stores within an Hour of me carrying these type of fish. So I guess that's why I try to find other sources for these. Probably about 15 species of Apistogramma or more ? are available at any time. Pelvicachromis are only slowly becoming more available. I hope to try to breed as many of these as possible with the intention of spreading these fish throughout the hobby. Dreaming probably!! I would just like to say that I appreciate this list as very informative and interesting. Contacts I have made via this list are becoming invaluable. Lastly, please let us on the list know when some of your fry becoming available. Especially, those hard to find ,rare or never spawned before fish. For instance the gibbiceps, mentioned by Mike Jacobs, I think that it is awesome that he got these fish to spawn. Hope with discussion like this will spread these fish in the hobby as they should be. Thanks, Phillip Ryti RYTIREEFS@JUNO.COM