Hi Bob. Did you try some of the sights on the web? here's one www.anchorbayAquarium.com/Apisto.html They have a lot of apisto's for sale. Also try david soares page (can't rermember his address) but he has a great selection of apisto's. I got a couple of "triple reds" off a buddy on this list, and he got them from dave and there some of the most beutiful fish i've ever seen.(thanks Bob). Hope this helps. Tim.