Hi All, I have just obtained a pair of steindachneri from my friend. They spawned once for him but unfortunately ate the eggs. The male is about 2.5 " and the female 1.5. I have seen in the books that the maximum total length for these fish is 4", can anyone confirm this as I've never seen an apisto this large. I'd say 3" is a good size for any that I've kept seen in the past. They seem to be quite secretive and spend more time hiding than other apistos e.g. nijsseni or cacatuiodes, is this normal for them? Any tips on successful breeding (pH , temp etc)would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken. ***************************** Ken Laidlaw Royal Observatory, Edinburgh Tel: 0131-668 8100 Fax: 0131-668 1130 Web: http://www.roe.ac.uk *****************************