That thought came to mind for me also. My question for Martin is how are the other fish in the tank doing? Are there any contaminants which might have been in the peat which the Ram's would have been more sensitive to than the Apisto's? (This is addressed to anybody who might know.) At 01:13 PM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote: > Martin Rausch wrote: ><<<<Subject: Ramirezi died >This morning all my Ramirezi died within 5 minutes. They fell into >spasms, > [SNIP] > >Is there any chance that the peat was contamineted with pesticides? >If you can, a check of the water parameters (ammonia, nitrites and pH) >would help to learn more, and hopefully avoid more losses in the future. > > >Dionigi > ______________________________________________________________________ William M. Groth groth@ruf.rice.edu Senior Staff Auditor Internal Audit Department phone: (713) 527-8101 ext.3759 fax: (713) 285-5927 _____________________________________________________________________