- ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD25EC.CE89F860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Steph I had some German Blue rams that seemed to spawn at the drop of a hat! = The only way I was able to get any fry (save one time) was to remove the = eggs from parents. If I let the parents take care of the spawn, by the = third day the eggs disappeared; with or without the light left on. The = only time the adults raised any fry was when I was away for the week. = Maybe they need privacy! Quite possibly the German Blues are a hardier strain than most. It = didn't seem to matter much about water hardness or pH; anywhere from = rainwater to wellwater suits them fine. As long as the young were raised = in an established tank, the first food I gave them was baby brine. Good Luck Don - ---------- From: Steph & Dave[SMTP:caligula@curie.dialix.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 5:03 AM To: Apisto Mailing List Subject: Breeding Rams !?!?!?! Hi All I set up a breeding tank (70 litres, pair of rams and 6 zebra danios)for my blue rams and they have settled in really well, so well that exactly seven days after moving them in they have spawned !! However its now three days later and all the eggs have disappeared - some time between leaving for work this morning and getting home tonight (50 - 58 hours after spawning). All the eggs appeared kinda whitish this morning which Dave thinks is mold? Question is what do normal fertilised eggs look like? why would they go moldy if a) the male appears to spend all his time hovering and fanning the eggs and b) the water circulation is good. Any tips or advice appreciated Thanks Steph Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List = Archives"! - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD25EC.CE89F860 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgQCAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ADwBAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADAFAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAFMAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABhcGlzdG9AbWFqb3Jkb21vLnBvYm94LmNvbQBTTVRQAGFwaXN0b0BtYWpvcmRvbW8u cG9ib3guY29tAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAGwAAAGFwaXN0b0BtYWpvcmRv bW8ucG9ib3guY29tAAADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAdAAAAJ2FwaXN0b0BtYWpvcmRv bW8ucG9ib3guY29tJwAAAAACAQswAQAAACAAAABTTVRQOkFQSVNUT0BNQUpPUkRPTU8uUE9CT1gu Q09NAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAF8kABCIAHABgAAABJUE0uTWljcm9z b2Z0IE1haWwuTm90ZQAxCAEEgAEAGgAAAFJFOiBCcmVlZGluZyBSYW1zICE/IT8hPyEAJQcBBYAD AA4AAADOBwEAFAAVAC0ALgACAFwBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcBABQAFQAtAC4AAgBcAQEJgAEAIQAAAEM2 NURERDBBREI5MUQxMTFBOEEzQjBFRDAxQzEwRTI3AE0HAQOQBgCMBwAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAm AAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5AMBOvKwWJr0BHgBwAAEAAAAaAAAAUkU6IEJyZWVkaW5n IFJhbXMgIT8hPyE/IQAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG9JhastPEYb2iR3xHRqKOw7QHBDicAAB4AHgwB AAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAIAAAAZGtpbnlvbgADAAYQzOxpUwMABxDrBQAAHgAIEAEA AABlAAAASEksU1RFUEhJSEFEU09NRUdFUk1BTkJMVUVSQU1TVEhBVFNFRU1FRFRPU1BBV05BVFRI RURST1BPRkFIQVRUSEVPTkxZV0FZSVdBU0FCTEVUT0dFVEFOWUZSWShTQVZFT05FVAAAAAACAQkQ AQAAABsGAAAXBgAAlQoAAExaRnVS8ZcA/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesCgwBQAvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbD AoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0CgzN3AuQHEwKAfQqACM8J2TvxFg8yNTUCgAqBDbELYOBuZzEwMxRQ CwoUUYUL8mMAQCBIaSwGAJkT0HBoCoUKhUkgEYCIZCBzA3BlIEcEkIUDgkIKQSByYW0EIH50EYAF QBGwE+AJgB4Qb3scsAqwdwOgHkEeIBzwZGEDYHAgb2YfYBxxdBghIFQfsQIgbHkgfHdhIUAcYCFg BCABoGzbHPAe4WcRwB9gbiFAA1DhIUAoc2F2IPIiMQdxfikhsx7hFhAEYCNxH6JlbGdnBCADUiAK sQnwdPxzLhxQIEAcYCIgH4QmBekeEGFrHPBjJhEgIh+iux8TGxBiIUAfoh4gaQsgFx/QIXElJ2QE AGFwcNJlJhFkOyFQaR4gICAPBcAr0ghgH4RsaWdo/wVAIiABgCEBJnAg1yPiH5P5HJB1bCexHdAE AB6xIsb9IcJ3H7ADoCGlIWICEAXAVR+idwngayZwTSFwYp8lAyFAI7AesRNQaXYA0GR5IQqFUXUr 4CdBb/0EEGkCYCl0HRkh4ShRIGL3CyAIkRywdC+RA6AeIQOgHwRgE8AmcQVAKwBkbiefHlQe0gDA AkA3QW11EXD/IfEskiFgOeI28iOwBBEFsfxwSCuwIsEwwShRJbM3kqc61B7hMkBsbDrUczShqx4C OVFmC4BlJnBBBCDPFaAZEB9gPsMgeQhgP+H/MkAoUS+VN7EDkQeQAZEtEM5zH7AcoCfRbmsbEB+i vz8wEaAFQAIQBHAcUWcjYts+4yHCYgGgIUBiBRA/UdUKhUdD4kw6MGtCsEbvPCBEAiAbjAr0LRAx OIIwAtFpLTE0NA3w5wzQSiMLWTE2CqADYBPQ+mMFQC1MRwqHSvsMMEvGekYDYTpNTkvGDIIbJCAG JkgAI2FbU01UUI46KDAtES9AYUBjCHImLisAUjF4LgWgbS74YXVdTO9N/QZgAjBPL11QO1Q2USox GxBKAHB1DwrAIUAB0BsQMTk5ONggNToZQBSwTVP/Tf3MVG9WP1A7QXAEAB7h7zKgAxALgD/wTF5B Wi9VDrh1YmpMAVxPUDtCCdHLKwA/4VId4iE/ZINIT/lJUzM2SscaRUvGGvAUsOc+ABuOEbEgdSAQ IGBFcOdjxULSIzA3MC0BN4AHkH8bEAqwKfAgIh3TAHAcoDb4IHplRXAgYCowAwA1APYpMcEKhW1F UR2XbFIzA/cRgCNxEbF0IiBBgxYQB0A/ITI98RsQHMA90x4UZXj7ANBwAHkKhRGwI3ADoCox/yHh AYA58iTgajM+8jezb1fLHyIesSFk7UhvMkAjcPsFwD6ibncwHhEJ0XNUC2D/OeJsUnChJRhvgysJ TDBylvcc0i6TMtB0MkEDoCIgI2D7XtIxwncFsEbAKdEEIARg/wSgXtJsUiKBI+A/4SyALrKnAiAt IgqFKDVq4C1ZoL9ZkCyBEaBzpR8TXtEpJnD3aBIlGHrHawuAKjAwsSvg/0JhCoV+C4SROkFRginC QvDjBCB+I2xkPxuMNJBCAd9tQAOgfiEwwB5BZB7wd+D7HTEDIGYEkCPgQlEesSVj/RWgb0bALRAo AIfWMMAhQfcIYIewMvRnOZGHoSFABpD/H2AkIB+iijEvAStDJGMfEP8J8HlUfhIj4gqFLIB3YX6W 3mYAcH6DgxhsYWKORDrU/mMp8FKweNGJFY1wBHBFxu0KhUEi0SPgcDujHJB0MN5jjtMWEJQgOuFk G4wg0P1C4XMbjBs/mu5MSJzvnf//nw+f2piXfiGQUi7yXjMJwN8d4ADAOaFetEJRdBsQohS6QADA agWwidAEYC408PcG4FNkCoVGBbELgDdxOjD/iQI7oQOgLIB4AR7xYWAE8j8y0QWxQKCnmyKCH7Bs cF4sCoUT4F6hogUtFhBxf4jSpC+lOQZgCsA6QS1AdPBwOi8vB0ABkHQwQhG9UwFnK+AHQFNyMbMi XiS/onVemhSxEXAzwAeQImTtX2VvZn9L1QqFFTEAtkAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAQAAAEAABzAgKkVL Eya9AUAACDCAdsWsFia9AR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAA7WY= - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD25EC.CE89F860--