>One fish I am especially interested in is you photo of >A."rotpunkt", it looks very like A. "puerto narino", are >these the same fish? Hi all, Puerto Narino are "rotpunkt" IMO. I've seen A. sp. rotpunkt under a number of different synonyms through the years: as A. moae in a Cichlid News article, A sp. "Schwarzsaum" as over-priced German imports, and countless others from perhaps well-meaning, but less than eagle eyed aquarists. Regardless, it's a great fish, probably one of the most adaptable and eager to spawn apisto., great colors, big 'ol green lips on the males. A bit frustrating though when you place an order for some new and exotic apisto. only to find out it is a "rotpunkt",of which you have too many in the first place. - - Steve Waldron ******************************************************************** Steven J. Waldron e-mail: swaldron@slip.net 2550 Balboa St. #2 phone: (415) 386-7377 San Francisco, California, 94121 USA "I like the look of frogs, and their outlook, and especially the way they get together in wet places on warm nights and sing about sex." - Archie Carr, The Windward Road