To Randy Carey and all Apisto list members, I just came across probably the best site that I have ever seen in regards the amount of pictures dealing with dwarfs: ie. Apistogramma Nanochromis Pelvicachromis & more. The site is http://w5.dj.net.tw/~iris/ There is only one drawback, it appears to be in Japanese.? However, all of the pictures can be identified by clicking them with the right mouse button or by hitting the buttons on the left column. This will bring you to a list of fish with pictures with the latin names within the Japanese words. Also, For more pics. Try this out. http://www.petsforum.com/aquageo/BLB010.htm Hope some of you enjoy this, Phillip Ryti rytireefs@juno.com