>I think it was in Cichlid News--Marc Weiss said he can find all the wild >discus-types in the same waters. Not sure if locals moved them around >or if the wholesalers sort by types before shipping them to the U.S. I >wonder how much sorting is done by the wholesalers on apistos. Ed, That is interesting. I neglected the possibility of artificially induced gene flow amongst populations from commercial collectors. Wholesalers sort through Apistos quite well (that is if they have someone on staff with "The EYE"), I used to myself. Exporters, not so much. I've found t-bars, Taenicara and hosts of others in boxes of wild tetras and other apisto. imports. Oh and those with a disdain for wild cacatuoides- I like them, but if you don't, a wild bag of cacatuoides is at least good for one thing- Apistogrammoides. - - Steve Waldron