Thanks, those names sound much better. I'll grow them out and see. I don't know why anyone would care but I also picked up a pair of A. luelingi. Besides being pleasantly chunky and quite spirited already, they are much more colorful than the pictures I've seen of them would indicate. >> I just got some A. sp. "Red point" and A. Reticulata "Red face" this >weekend. >> Anyone have any info on these? > >The first comes under different names, one of which is A. sp. "Rotpunkt". >The other one is probably A. resticulosa, which some have a series of red >markings on the gill plate. Also known as "Red Mask". > >Julio - -Doug Brown debrown@kodak.com