I believe we have spoken just recently, and You seemed to have no knowledge of the South American Importers here in Florida. Yet you seem to be an expert now? I believe you have many contacts with South American Exporters not Importers or you would understand. The fact is the fish are held here in the exporters tanks and then sent to Hollond, Japan, etc... If you want names and adresses e-mail me and we can talk these people are wholesale only and I dont want them to be flooded with calls from hobbyists. Again you are mistaken on your last point, many of the rare varieties are found as contaminents and under false names. I have the luxery of sifting through contaminents and have found Taeniacara candidi, A.viejita color form II, A.sp. Puerto narino and many others over the years. In fact many like A.jurensis, A.panduro(formaly pandurini), and D.maculatus come in under their name proper! As far the fish coming in emanciated they are held for a week by one of my better importers before being sent to Japan, he can do this because of the price he gets in this market. But they always come in looking thin, they have been through alot, most Americans will not buy this and thats why they are sent overseas. The bottom line is this; Yes,some South American Importers in Florida do send their overseas thats a fact! and Yes, you can find the rare species at those Importers. It is not easy but with patience you will find them. David Sanchez - ---Jota Melgar wrote: > > David wrote: > > >Evedently you are mistaken Mr. Melgar, I know of at least 3 importers > >that ship all their fish to Japan and Europe. In fact they do no > >business in the U.S., they Import South American fish and then Export > >them over seas. > > This is the first time I've heard of such companies. Perhaps you can post > their names and phone numbers or addresses. I have a few friends in South > America that would like to add customers to their lists. > > >This common misconception has lead many American > >aquarists to Europe in search of Apisto's not realizing they can be > >found in your own backyard! > > With very few exceptions, I haven't heard of any importers getting A. > mendezi, A. elizabethae, A. agassizii "Tefe", A. diplotaenia, etc, etc, > etc. Most of the few that do get the more rare dwarves, do so from Europe. > Very few do so from S.A. > > >especialy Apisto's since they > >come in so emanciated and with out color. > > This is a terrible misconception often brought about by many importers > ordering fish from cheaper exporters. Good exporters, just like good > importers, will not send emaciated fish. Thinner than what we have in our > tanks? Yes, but nowhere near emaciated. The hard part is sorting through > the good and the bad. > > Julio > > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com